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@mingey : Here, here @thomas_sadoski ・・・ Couple of things for what it’s worth: •This is about 20 something years too late. From both Clinton and Dowd. Lest we forget that while Monica Lewinsky, all of 23 years of age, was being savaged on a global scale no less a prominent voice than Maureen Dowd called Lewinsky “...among other things, tubby, slutty, and nutty...[And ultimately]: “It is Ms. Lewinsky who comes across as the red-blooded predator, wailing to her girl friends that the President wouldn’t go all the way.” And “It is Mr. Clinton who behaves more like a teen-age girl trying to protect her virginity. … Ms. Lewinsky is the one who bristles with testosterone.”” (Sourced and taken from a vox.com piece by Laura McGann) Look we all make mistakes. I have made far too many to count. Dowd gets a second act and a second chance. But she also must, MUST, acknowledge her rather substantial evolution on this very specific subject. • Dowd in here continues to perpetuate the fallacy that Bill Clinton was anything resembling a liberal or progressive. Although he may have held the status quo on a few issues he was absolutely disastrous on myriad more. There is a very good argument to be made, that HAS been very convincingly (almost unarguably) made, that Clinton’s failure to push actual progressive ideology set back the momentum on LGBTQ rights, the separation of church and state, economic re-enfranchisement of the working poor, women’s rights, human and humanitarian rights among others to near disastrous effect. Dowd’s treatment of him as some kind of Nostradamus of the Blue Collar World is laughable. He should know quite a bit about the disenfranchisement of the working class in the so-called flyover: he was the architect and executor of much of their confusion, deprivation and loss in the 90’s and into the early 00’s. •The significant take away here is that Bill Clinton is still being seen as even tangentially or remotely relevant by a significant portion of significant so-called p